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I thought they would give him the option to take a helicopter ride with them back to shore

That is not something they do. I doubt they even landed on the ship since this is always a dangerous thing to do, especially when it involves a non-military ship (lack of training, etc.). The USCG most likely flew search patterns based on the ship speed and position and course, and the closest they got to the ship was to fly by and talk via radio.

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Originally posted by Dave Beers:

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I thought they would give him the option to take a helicopter ride with them back to shore

That is not something they do. I doubt they even landed on the ship since this is always a dangerous thing to do, especially when it involves a non-military ship (lack of training, etc.). The USCG most likely flew search patterns based on the ship speed and position and course, and the closest they got to the ship was to fly by and talk via radio.

It's so sad they weren't able to find her. How close to the water can they get?

They can get right down on the water, but when you do that it significantly reduces your search area. Think of being in an airplane at 1000 feet and how much you can see, as opposed to an airplane at 100 feet.

They don't usually find the body of a person gone overboard at sea from what I recall.

Sonny

Watching Nancy Grace again it looks like they have cleared the boyfriend. Security cameras captured him leave his cabin and go next door. They also see her climb the balcony and go overboard after the boyfriend left the cabin. Nancy asked if there was a door inbetween the rooms which could mean he went back through but I do not think they suspect that. I assume they see only the woman on the balcony. I believe it is supposed to be on NG again tomorrow. Guess they had just returned from dinner at 7:30.

The mother was upset that the BF did not call her till the next morning some 14 hrs after this happened. I am not sure I feel that was a bad thing. I have to put myself in the mothers shoes. Would I want someone to call me and tell me that my daughter has gone overboard and they are looking for her. What would I do? I imagine he was hoping that they would find her alive and that he could call her and say she went overboard but good news....they found her alive! Unforunately that is not the case.

Given that the winds in the area were high and the sea was rough at the time of the loss / search- a helicopter extraction was unnecessarily dangerous to the aircrew, the passenger and the ship. I spent a number of years with USAF Rescue and Recovery. Safety is No. 1 for all parties involved. Then again,The ship was only 4 hours out-still the practicality of returning to port is up to the Captain of the ship! The affected passenger had very little few choices made available to him.
I am sure there will be much going on upon his arrival in Bermuda!

BillyBuzzy

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a helicopter extraction was unnecessarily dangerous to the aircrew, the passenger and the ship.

Absolutely. During my Navy life I landed on aircraft carriers and also on guided missile cruisers. The air crew didn't mind the carrier landings, but I could tell they really hated trying to hit a circle on the pitching and rolling cruiser. It was not a fun time for me either, and I had spent lots of time in helicopters during my Marine Corps life. A person can grieve in the safety of a cruise ship. That isn't worth the risk to the flight crew.

Rhonda66- Sorry if my reply to you sounded as if I was implying you were stupid. I never even considered the coast guard helicopter as I knew they wouldn't have tried to land on the ship for the purpose of picking the husband up.

I was trying to drive the point that just because he was still on the ship didn't mean he was uncaring... he really had no choice if the captain chose to continue on to Bermuda.

I watched the Inside Edition piece on it and thought it did sound fishy. I didn't watch Nancy Grace so I didn't know that had a tape of her climbing over. This is a sad story.

Dwayne

Hi everyone,I am a little confused as to why this ship did not have to return to Port since it was not that far out to begin with I don't think anyone on that ship enjoyed that cruise I know I would not have are ther different laws at sea? Seems like they just went on as if nothing happened!!

I am not familiar with maritime law. The ship would have been in International waters though. They would have to follow whatever jurisdiction is in control I believe.

Richard & Mary - Thank You for posting the timeline of the incident. After reviewing it - it seems even more senseless and tragic. This incident is about as sad and foolish as it can get!

BillyBuzzy

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I don't think anyone on that ship enjoyed that cruise

It wouldn't have caused me to lose interest in the cruise. Sure, I would have felt bad when I heard the news. But unless I knew the person the sympathy would have quickly passed. People sometimes die on cruise ships. That is why ships carry a couple of caskets.

I understand people die on ships in fact I lost an Uncle many years ago on a cruise ship from a heart attack but this was a little different not knowing if this was an accident or not would have given me the willy's,but as they say different strokes for different folks!!

It would be a real mess if they turned back. Would everyone want a refund? Everyones flights would have to be re booked. Who would be responsible for it.
I would say continue with the cruise. It would gain nothing by returning. You could always get off the ship at the next port and return. Then again who would be responsible for getting you home. It was not The Cruise Ship's fault.

As for Maritime laws I have learned a little about them due to my son-in-law a few years back. If a ship flys a foreign flag and most do once a ship is 7 miles out to sea the laws of that country's flag take over. We tried to obtain a lawyer and for 3 months we had one and then with no warning they dropped the case and stated "maritime law" and told us to contact a lawyer who specialized in this. We did and he told us to bring a case against the ship we would have to hire a lawyer in Norway which I believe is the flag NCL flys. In this case I am not sure the US would have juridiction to bring the ship back.

Actually, I think the Norwegian Dawn is registered at Nassau.

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Originally posted by Jim C.:
Rhonda66- Sorry if my reply to you sounded as if I was implying you were stupid. I never even considered the coast guard helicopter as I knew they wouldn't have tried to land on the ship for the purpose of picking the husband up.

I was trying to drive the point that just because he was still on the ship didn't mean he was uncaring... he really had no choice if the captain chose to continue on to Bermuda.

Thanks Jim C. I have always liked your posts, I just took the earlier post the wrong way.

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Originally posted by Sonny V:
Strange this story hasn't been on fox news.

Sonny

It is baseball season so you know the Chronical didn't cover it

As much of a newbie as I am to cruising, I guess I really didn't realize how many cameras a cruise ship has on board.

This story really drove home the point that so much of what you do outside your cabin can (and will) be captured on tape.

Depending upon the resolution of the camera, I wonder how many trysts on the balcony have been captured for posterity?

The whole incident is bizarre and I join all the others in expressing sympathy to the family and friends of the missing lady.