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I know this topic has been raised on numerous occasions so it could get boring and I apologize for that.
Living in a part of the world where tipping is not mandatory it is somewhat difficult to get my head round what amount to tip. I have just read a report on another site about two Australian girls who were abused by a taxi driver in Las Vegas for not giving a big enough tip on a $7.00 ride. At my age, this hassle I can do without! I have nothing against tipping if this is the norm for the country I am visiting, but how much?
Can I ask some questions?
We are visiting Las Vegas before we leave for England and then onto Rome to join the cruise.
1. whilst in Vegas what would one normally tip for a taxi ride costing between $8 - $10.
2. When in a bar what amount would you tip and would you tip for each order or at the end of evenings drinking?
3. Any other tips on tipping whilst we are on the cruise Carnival Freedom and how much on average would one tip for say room service?
Thanks
Peter
 
Posts: 207 | Location: Dunedin New Zealand | Registered: September 08, 2006Report This Post
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Cant really say about the taxi other than they had a jerk for a driver. Tipping is usually 15%, at least that is what I do. On the ship they usually do $10 per day and that is split up between the entire crew. If we have an exceptional room steward, then we usually tip him extra. As far as room service, that is up to you but usually that comes out of the $10 per day the ship will take anyway.
 
Posts: 686 | Location: St. Charles, Minnesota | Registered: July 25, 2006Report This Post
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Room service tip is NOT usually included in the $10 pd so if you order a meal maybe $2-5. if just a light snack $1-2. at the time of delivery.

Taxis... I am not sure but usually 10%

enjoy your trip


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Posts: 675 | Location: Ontario, Canada | Registered: September 04, 2006Report This Post
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Taxi drivers are a variable bunch, most being reasonable, but a few being rather demanding. No hard & fast rule as to tip amount or percentage for taxi rides. If the driver goes out of his way to be helpful, hefts your luggage for you, provides interesting commentary on the sights, etc., then I'd tip him $5 or so; if not, then less.

Tips onboard at the bars will be automatically added to the bar bill. If you get extraordinary service from a particular bartender, then tip him individually near the end of the cruise. LHT28 is right, room service tips are not included in the daily gratuity figure; I usually tip $2-5, depending on what they are bringing, if they come on time, etc.
 
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1. Couple of bucks.

2. Couple of bucks.

3. Couple of bucks.

If a bartender of waitress has been serving you drinks all night, that's a different story. I don't know how many people you are talking about, either. In a bar I would say to leave 20%. In New York State the tax rate is 8%, so I just double the tax (easy to see on the bill) and add... a couple of bucks.

Bring 100 one dollar bills with you. Take a bunch of them with you when you go anywhere. Then you have a few dollars handy any time you need to tip and you don't have to worry about getting the right amount of change back to leave a tip.

Just to be on the safe side, I would tip at least two dollars any time. Guy who takes your bags at the hotel... room service person... bartender after one round... taxi driver (I tip them in cruise ports as well)...

I tip bar personnel as I go along on a cruise. Why tip them at the end- it won't result in better service during the cruise (my theory).

In Vegas, don't forget that if you are playing the slots or going any "real" gambling you will be drinking for free. Be sure to tip the girls that "few bucks" and they will be much more available to you. Don't tip and you will have to hunt them down.

You will love Vegas. Just bring VERY comfortable shoes. Try the buffet at Wynn Las Vegas. UNBELIEVABLE.
 
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I agree about the Wynn Las Vegas buffet. Expensive, but not for what you're getting. The food was the best quality buffet food I've ever had.

We had the breakfast buffet at the Paris Las Vegas hotel last time, which was amazing, too. We'll probably try dinner there next time around...

Sandy
 
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Carlaleana1 Does exactly what I do when Tipping took the words right out of my Keyboard.
as well as other post's you sure your married?

this is the only thing that cracks me upwhen people are asking or letting people know what to bring or wear


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Just bring VERY comfortable shoes.


Who would evven own or want to wear uncomfortable shoes?
Just an observation Smile get's me everytime

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Posts: 591 | Location: Gainesville Florida | Registered: May 16, 2006Report This Post
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From what I have researched, the word TIPS is an old acronym for the phrase: To Insure Prompt Service.

It doesn't seem to matter what we think it means because the success of tipping matters greatly according to what the service person's concept is. And at the risk of changing the service community at large on their concept on the meaning of tipping, Do what it takes to get results.

If tipping is only a reward, merely average service would not merit a tip of any size. But tipping is a significant part of their income, so a small tip could indicate a polite, "thank you", when even average service is rendered.

If tipping is to encourage someone to deliver excellent service, (above what is expected) then there is incentive for the service personnel to excel. So, tipping in advance of service is certainly reasonable and may serve to say, “You scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.” What is the goal, if not to assure that you will be looked after. It is not that they are simply wanting to know that you approve of their work, our children, our spouses look for approval. It is performance, and income based on performance that they are after.

One thing for sure is that for me, the subject of tipping can not be reduced simply to satisfy a need to feel part of a global economy and show how sensitive we are to people who work below minimum wage. Nor is it my opportunity to set the world right on the subject. I wonder if some people tip just so people would like them or not disapprove of them? Results is what we are after, not to set the social-economic world aright.

I give the vending machine some change and it hands me a candy bar. What a concept!
 
Posts: 2233 | Location: Bloomington, MN | Registered: September 27, 2006Report This Post
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Sooo for a family of 4 on a seven day cruise the total would be $280+ bar and roomservice for tips? Geez..got to get my funds together.
 
Posts: 97 | Location: Murrieta, California | Registered: December 04, 2006Report This Post
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Originally posted by KatinkaClementsmith:
Sooo for a family of 4 on a seven day cruise the total would be $280+ bar and roomservice for tips? Geez..got to get my funds together.


NOT GENERALLY

depends to the age of your kids and which company you are cruising with.

E.g. NCL requires 5 USD/day for kids between 3 and 12 while adults are paying 10 USD/day.

Regards,
HeinBloed
 
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I know also that this topic comes up often and is much debated. I say go with the norm in most cases. But I have found myself over-tipping in some instances.

Taxis are tricky. I have tipped them well and then found out they over charged me. I have pulled my car up to the pier unloading area and tipped the guy $1 per bag after I got them out of the trunk for him to throw them in a cage thing. Then look up and the sign says "no tipping required", they are paid Handlers. Then you have the Porter that will carry all your luggage back to where you parked your car, He works for tips!

It does get confusing sometimes. And is a learning process for even someone like me that has waited tables for tips. I say don't sweat it too much, if someone does extra, give them extra.

I do dis-agree with Children being charged automatically. That is not a Tip, it is a Sur-Charge for paid for services.

When they say everything is included, it should be. If you want to tip extra, should be up to you. Not made to feel you are responsible for paying their salary instead of the Cruise Line.
 
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Speaking of tips.....it can get out of control and I am not talking about cruise ships. I had the pest control guy here last week for the quarterly treatment. He jumps out of the truck and immediately hands me a Christmas card in a not-too-subtle hint. Now, this guy is paid by commission as well as a base salary. He got a "thank you for the card" from me and a check for the service charge.

The garbage men are another one. Next Tuesday I fully expect to go out to the road to pick up my trash cans and find a card taped to one of them. Yeah, I really want to touch a card left by someone who just handled a few hundred trash cans!

Then comes the newspaper delivery, which is done by a woman my age via her car. If it was a kid on a bike it would be different.

Thanks for listening!


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Posts: 14909 | Location: Alabama | Registered: December 12, 2005Report This Post
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Dave..believe it or not, my mail-carrier lady drops a Christmas Card in our box that outright asks for a tip if we have enjoyed her services over the year!!!

Back to the unpopular snubject of ship tipping.... I understand it originally was optional on most lines, as it is right now on Royal Caribbean, which I bet will soon change to the mandatory method also as their average passenger age is on the decline also.

The average age of cruisers overall is lower now than it used to be. With that, the average family income of cruisers overall is probably down also. The "fixed added tips" resulted from many people not leaving anything. These workers sign up to work on cruise ships as a way of bettering their lives. They are told up front that it is a tip-based income and the better they perform, the more they will make. Imagine their disappointment when no one leaves anything. Imagine yourself working on a ship as a waiter and you show up every evening for your assigned table and no one shows up to use your services, or worse fails to show on the last night to avoid tipping...which I have seen repeatedly on earlier cruises. Imagine you have a cabin occupied by a gambler that got carried away and lost all of his cash the last day and has nothing to leave you for gratuity, and he doesn't have an ATM card. The list goes on and on.

Most cruise-bookings are price-driven, which is why mostly inside cabins are advertised. Just like a grocery store, prices are usually PLUS TAX, etc.etc. Carnival does explain in their literature that per person/day tip charges will be added. The only people caught off-guard are those that don't read the information ahead of time. I agree it would be nice if they simply raised advertised cruise prices to include the "services surcharge" but that would only work if ALL lines adhered to the same policy in advertising prices, which will not happen.

Not trying to be long-winded, but I have traveled to the third world countries these workers come from on mission work and have the highest regard for them trying to make a better life for themselves and their family. They, too, need to get what they signed onboard for.



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I agree with you tncruisman and I know that the majority come from third world countries but I have a hard time with the concept of global consciousness and tipping because they are needy.

My understanding is if you tip as a gratuity, going to the root word it has to do with appreciation or being thankful for service rendered. I don't mean to pour cold water on the discussion or scrape the needle across the turntable.

I value the opinons of others and this is only my point of view. I am all for service staff getting what they deserve but I won't sign on to the entitlement concept just yet.

My trash-haulers just put a nice card on the bins with their name and complete address! I guess that they don't want to risk missing the homeowner as they return for their next pick-up and may be looking forward to a check! Not at this house NoNo
 
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I do agree with you..there is a big difference between someone being deserving and being needy. It might work better if the cruise lines simply disclosed the added charges as a "basic services surcharge" and left it at that.



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Still on the mandatory tipping subject, many have mentioned the "service surcharge" leads to indifferent attitudes and services on those ships. I personally have not found that to be the case. Quite the opposite actually. On all five of my earlier RCCL cruises, the service was impeccable during the cruise and the crew's attitude turned to *%#@ on the morning of departure. I won't go to the point of saying they were rude, but very indifferent and passive to most everyone. I know it wasn't just my tipping because I always tipped half-again to double the recommended amounts. On previous Carnival and Princess Cruises, the crew was just as friendly during departure as they were upon arrival. Has anyone else had this observation?



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NOt sure I have paid that much attention, but since you mentioned it, maybe I have witnessed the mode change. I have always dismissed it as being the bussiest day of the week for them. Not only do they have to get everyone taken care of and off the ship, but they have to turn around and welcome everyone aboard for the next cruise. I imagine that is the longest day of their week. The cabin stewards have to get ALL the cabins cleaned and ready between the hours of 9 and 12.. whereas during the cruise many cabins are in "do not disturb" mode so they have more time to get to them all...

Heck, I give them all the credit in the world for being nice through out the week.. I know damn well that I couldn't work those hours and still be nice to me all the time.

On the topic of giving the garbage men a tip.. I have done it, but ours are not as bold as to put the card on the cans... I'm a woodworker and my trash always seems to have a can of heavy scraps and such, so they go beyond the call at my house. But I may not be doing it anymore because I have noticed that the workers don't do the job for very long. So I may be tipping someone who only did my route a couple times....


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My point was that on Princess and Carnival (home of surcharge tipping) the crew had an even disposition (happy and polite) thru the entire cruise, including the morning of departure. It was on RCCL ships that the change of attitude was apparent, for us anyway. The last day of the cruise has nothing to do with the way coffee is poured or breakfast is served. If I were in their job, I'd lose my patience on day 2, if not before that! LOL



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Hi Dave,
This seems to go on all over the world. Although as I have said in the past tipping is not the norm in NZ there is always someone with their hand out. But there are exceptions,the news paper boy/girl for instance, the paper comes on time through rain,hail,and snow, probably akin to the Pony Express. They deserve a Christmas tip. The paper boy/girl that is, not the Pony Express Smile
I will be away in a couple of days for the Christmas/New Year Break so I will take this opportunity to wish you and all our fellow members of the chat programme a great Holiday no matter whether it's Christmas, Hanukkah and have a wee dram for Hogmanay, or any other festival and here's to pleasurable cruising in 2007.
 
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Thank you Ptur! And a very merry "whatever your preference" to you too!


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