Thank you for your reply,:SAS:. I have been in contact with a supervisor, and although I am still trying to sort out what is said, what is stated in the contract, and what is hidden between the lines, at least I am talking to someone. I still think we are caught in a huge pickle here, but we are trying to make some sense of it.

OMG! I cant believe people are still falling for this. I posted several postings LAST YEAR after I got back from Carnival Conquest. My opinion is...

CVC does not give you equal value, and absolute no savings, for your money. Over 90% of people who purchased have buyer's remorse right after and a high percentage of these "valued clients of Carnival" have a hard time getting their money back, even with help from BBB or their credit card.

CVC is NOT part of Carnival, NOT own by Carnival, and the employees that wear carnival uniform or name tags are NOT Carnival employees.

Simply put, DON'T DO IT!!!

I would agree, and can't believe this topic is still going. In this day and age I feel if they want this type of deal is all good. If they do it and don't like it is their own ignorance, and no sympathy here. Maybe they need a lesson to wise them up in the future. IMHO.

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Originally posted by sc6103:
OMG! I cant believe people are still falling for this. I posted several postings LAST YEAR after I got back from Carnival Conquest. My opinion is...

CVC does not give you equal value, and absolute no savings, for your money. Over 90% of people who purchased have buyer's remorse right after and a high percentage of these "valued clients of Carnival" have a hard time getting their money back, even with help from BBB or their credit card.

CVC is NOT part of Carnival, NOT own by Carnival, and the employees that wear carnival uniform or name tags are NOT Carnival employees.

Simply put, DON'T DO IT!!!

The CVC program has been shut down and no new contracts are being sold. They are still servicing the existing contracts.

Thank you Dave for the update. I have been busy and did not have time to update myself with postings here. This is a great place to share experience, good or bad, and information. Love this place and encouraged all my friends to spend a little time here prior to their departures.

As for CVC, I am so glad that they are not tarnishing the Carnival name anymore, and it's not a moment too soon!. I do worry that they will just come back with another name, just like so many other scams has.

In anycase, good riddence!

Hope everyone learned that when they buy something, they read the contract and if they questions call the company within the alloted time. We did and we are completely happy cruising cheaper than the average Jo, prior embarking and the resort are great.

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Originally posted by Kortneycruise:
Hope everyone learned that when they buy something, they read the contract and if they questions call the company within the alloted time. We did and we are completely happy cruising cheaper than the average Jo, prior embarking and the resort are great.

Please do not misrepresent. This is what got ICE the horrible reputation they are now stuck with. Thank goodness Carnival's name is out of it.

You paid more for each cruise you took than the prices you can find on Vacations To Go and the resorts that were "suppose to be world wide" were limited at best and certainly not 5 star. Just ask the vast majority of people on this board alone who reported their disgust when they realized they had been lied to.

The only true part of your statement is that you do get VIP Check In and Debarkation.

CVC offices on the ships are closed, no more people are being lied to and come April 2012 (when the last contract expire)...CVC will cease to exist.

Sadly, ICE is still alive and well, but with enough word of mouth on the ships...people will learn to avoid anything with ICE on the paperwork like the plague.

People coming on here who continue to misrepresent do nothing to help ICE's reputation.

I cant agree more with LHP. Kortneycruise, I hope you can do math better then average Jo. Regardless, I am just glad that Carnival is no longer mentioned in the same sentence as ICE.

Way to go!

This is the first time that I posted on here. We did purchase the CVC. We were happy with the cruise part however the resorts are a joke. The only reason why we did the CVC was for the 299 resorts stay. We figured it was a good deal.

The only way to get our money back is to start a class action law suit against Carnival and the company that sold the product. Carnival isn't going to want to deal with it and the the compay that sold it will have to deal with it.

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Originally posted by firehawk:
This is the first time that I posted on here. We did purchase the CVC. We were happy with the cruise part however the resorts are a joke. The only reason why we did the CVC was for the 299 resorts stay. We figured it was a good deal.

The only way to get our money back is to start a class action law suit against Carnival and the company that sold the product. Carnival isn't going to want to deal with it and the the compay that sold it will have to deal with it.

A lawsuit will not be successful. ICE's contracts are well written. They have years of experience peddling timeshares.

There is some justice though, these contracts are no longer being sold. Carnival pulled out and all the offices on the Carnival ships have been closed since March 2007.

Sadly it was up to the buyer to "beware". The ole saying "if it sounds to good to be true"...

I am just glad that Carnival got their name out of it and closed down the ship offices. All current contracts are being honored...so you will still get VIP Check In and Debarkation for the rest of your contract. You don't have to use points or book through CVC to get that benefit.

********** MUST READ ********************

Hello all, I used to be a Carnival Vacation club sales associate on a certain ship** don't really want to say which one.

First off all, anyone who bought a package... well sorry but you were ripped off. It's all lies people! Points are at .25 cents, not .17

The $299 resort certificates are a joke! hahah seriously, YOU CANT USE THEM!

VIP perks are limited, honestly I don't even know what we did.. Debark was a bonus, but anyone could get off the same time if they requested it.... funny

We lied to people.. YES.. constantly, we were encouraged to do so. More sales = more money!

Here is the bottom line, if I did not sign up $40,000 a week in packages I could be fired the next week. Plus if I do not hit 40k I get no commission. Example, I produced $38k in packages, sorry NO COMM.

Do I feel bad for ripping so many NICE people off? Yeah, especially some. I really do.. I actually went out and partied with some of the guests i signed up. Or would sit down for hours and just chat. I guess it was hard for them to say NO to me.

I actually told a guest not to cancel it the second he got home.. he was a cool dude.

Another thing about the points, you can never use the exact amount that you have in the "bank" so you automatically lose!! I forget how many states cant even buy 'rental points' but it was a lot. So now your stuck with 1500 points, and of course you wont buy another package!

If you financed the friggin thing you're already screwed. Think about it! paying 15% interest on FUTURE VACATIONS!! or paying INTEREST ON NOTHING! ! ! ! you spread out vacations over a 3-5 year period. WHY PAY INTEREST ON NOTHING? too me this was the worst part of the package

And lets be honest, who has 5-10k sitting around to spend on this vacation package.

Some of the day to day lies in the pitch:

You get better chance of upgrades, NO
You get best price guaranteed, NOPE!
VIP benefits on all carnival corp ships, NOPE (only 6 ships it was sold on, NOW NONE)
Do our prices beat military discounts? hahha Hell no!
Were part of Carnival! NO WE ARENT! - I played on this feature! people feel secure with carnival

.... So many more, another big one being the use of exchanging points for cruises. I KNOW FOR FACT EVERY ASSOCIATE would LIE about this! If I or another sales person showed you the laptop with the points layout, we always picked an off season room, or different category.

I did very well for myself, I would produce anywhere from 30-80k a week in sales. Once I gained your trust via jokes... building rapport.. many many sales tactics. You were mine, i made the deal look like gold, any objection you had I would close.
My closing rate was around 60-70% very very high.

Those bottles of champagne cost .08 cents each by the way..

CVC is done for now, but another program is in the works by ICE, will even be bigger than before.

Ohh yes, forgot to mention the contract! PEOPLE! read everything! never sign anything unless you have taken due f'kin diligence! IT SAYS RIGHT IN THE CONTRACT, "anything the sales person has said cannot be considered the truth" or something along those lines... um i forget the page, but i would skip over it very fast

I would have you sign the contract within 5 mins. thats 19 pages people! You people trust too much..

Sorry... but it was a job, i needed to make money. I was good at it.

Ciao !

ps. art auctions on ships are even worse! never buy any art.. i knew many art auctioneers, they told me many many stories. Art is overvalued on ships, one story... Some family bought 30k worth of art, came home and it was appraised at around 4-6k... if you can sell it!

So hope you haven't bought art as well.

Well aren't you special! "Confession is good but true repentance would make restitution."

Full restitution.

He does bring up another topic... Art Auctions. Chewy confirms my suspicions that the art is not worth anything close to what they claim it is.

Anyone ever buy any art on board and get it appraised once they got home? I when to one auction and came out with a feeling that there was no way that stuff was worth what they claimed.

I can't imagine it would be worthwhile for the cruise line to cut any deals on art. So, I would steer clear and take my chances at bingo. Or maybe some day they will auction off burned ironing board covers!

If the burned ironing board covers comes in a nice frame... I'm IN! You can get those just anywhere.

I'm with you on the cruise line cutting no deals, makes you wonder why you see the "auctions" on EVERY cruise line and don't hear about anyone who thinks they got ripped off. Maybe because no one bothers to get an appraisal when they get home? That and very few poeple knowledgable in art prices go on cruises? Again I don't understand. Either the art is sold for decent prices or people are too afraid to admit that got taken.

Yes, art auctions are horrible! The so called retail price is vastly inflated!

The art, is not original art. They make is seem as if there are only a few prints 50-300.. When there are thousands! In the 60's artists like Dali, chagal, Miro, Picasso...ect had thousands upon thousands of prints made, making them worth next to nothing!

Don't get me wrong, you can buy limited edition art collections by DALI, CHAGALL, MIRO, PICASSO.. but never on a ship for a good price!

There are some deals on the ship bound auctions, but very few. Most likely could still of found a better price on the internet, or land gallery.

Park west Gallery has a huge selection of these artists. And I believe they are on over 60 ships worldwide, Carnival, RCCL, NCL, Disney...

If you want to buy art, visit a well known dealer with 3rd party appraisals. NOT APPRAISALS DONE BY THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY (PARK WEST).

All of this was told by me by a senior art auctioneer, we had a good long chat about how we screwed people over... he won!

Buyer Beware!

Gotta give Chewy some small percentage of redemption for his efforts to warn everyone about the art.

His credibility increased when he said about the 3rd party appraisal.

Are you booking more cruises through CVC or Carnival? I've booked cruises this year with both C and CVC and wondering which other members book their cruises with and why.
Thanks,
Cassandra

I just booked a 1 week stay in Orlando at the Fountains Resort thru CVC. The documents I recieved from the resort parent company indicate that I must check in at the Orlando Tourist Bureau to obtain my resort vouchers. It also states that I must attend a 2 hour sales presentation and tour (ie timeshare presentation). Is this true - do I have to go to a different place to get a resort voucher? Do I have to sit thru a sales presentation as well? Lastly, it states that my husband must accompany me to the sales presentation or I will be charged a higher rate than the $299. My husband is not going on the trip. Has anyone else had this nonsense send to them when booking a resort thru CVC?