just read a report on fox.com about a cruise passenger that got kicked off of the conquest because he threw a fit and started a petition for missing a port due to a crew member having to be air lifted out for a medical emergency. he didnt like missing the port, or the 25 bucks he was offered for missing it. I guess it takes all kinds. I think the captain did the right thing. I love sea days
The passengers in question no doubt have a clearer understanding of the power of a ship's Master today. I am delighted at the actions taken by the Captain in this episode. If I ever sail with him I'll rest comfortably knowing that my ship is led by a fine officer. The passengers who joined in this protest should have been given the heave-ho as well. I would have jeered them heartily from the lido deck as they were escorted down the pier. I may have even "accidently" spilled a beer on them.
I want to be clear to everyone reading this thread. This forum does not condone anyone challenging the decisions or authority of a ship's crew. The Master of the ship made a decision and that is the end of it. "Stuff" happens, and these passengers needed to accept it and move on. These passengers chose a different route and paid the consequences for their stupid decision.
We will not be entertaining any discussion which supports the actions taken by these people.
Very well said. I agree with what the Captain did 100%. Can you imagine how fast that could have gotten out of hand in the middle of the ocean. Hats off to him
Obviously the crew member that was airlifted from the ship was very ill. People who do not put the health and safety of others before something as trivial as getting an extra sea day instead of a port should be booted, in my opinion. I am sure if the person needing to be airlifted from the ship were a family member or friend of the passenger who started this, he may have a different opinion.
I am sure if the person needing to be airlifted from the ship were a family member or friend of the passenger who started this, he may have a different opinion.
Oh, you can bet everything you own on that! If the shoe was on the other foot and the Captain decided to keep heading for Jamaica, we would be hearing a different story.
I don't want to make a long discussion of what I deem as a selfish and idiotic act. However, I have to weigh in on this. Not only did this person challenge the Captain's authority, which is a big no-no on any ship, his actions and attitude about another person's life I find despicable.
It is a me-me, "I have to have my way" world out there it seems. This takes it to another level.
Dwayne
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In the old days, he would have been keel-hauled. Don't you miss the good old days? Talk about on-board entertainment. The Captain is ultimate law and authority on the ship. The way it should be. It's his/her ship. You are a guest. There is little comparison to any other job in the world if you think about it. Many cities have a smaller population than a cruise ship. And there isn't a mayor out there that can, with a single decision, sink his whole city in a instant. From Love Boat, it might seem that Capt. Stubing has the best job in the world, but it is a huge responsibility. These mutineers should be happy that they were let off at a pier and not left at sea in a row boat. Good for you Captain.
You know I wonder if this man even considered what a dangerous situation he created. If he had done this on a plane, he would have not only been kicked off but would find his bottom in jail. I guess that is why I am no a cruise ship captain, I would have thrown him in the brig and waited until we returned the the USA.
Truly sad that a person's life or health is of no concern to another individual. I hope no one in his family becomes critically ill at a time that will inconvenience him.
I hope every captain on every ship that I am a passenger on will care enough for any person in distress, to do the right thing.
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Originally posted by macmom111: just read a report on fox.com about a cruise passenger that got kicked off of the conquest because he threw a fit and started a petition for missing a port due to a crew member having to be air lifted out for a medical emergency. he didnt like missing the port, or the 25 bucks he was offered for missing it. I guess it takes all kinds. I think the captain did the right thing. I love sea days
I'd like to read the fox report but could not find it. Can someone provide a link?
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The crew member that was "ill" had a tubular pregnancy. Had this ruptured, she would have bled to death in minutes. Life flighting her off the ship saved her life.
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In April 2000 my daughter and her new husband were on their Honeymoon on the SS Norway. My son-in-law became sick and taken to the infirmerary. He was kept there for 3 days and the Dr refused to have him airvacked off the ship. They had the private island and a sea day before returning to Miami. The Dr said they would have to stop the ship and that would make the passangers angry! He was taken to a Miami hospital where he underwent surgery immediately. Needless to say my son-in-law died shortly after. He was 24.
I have been on two cruises in the last 2 years that required removing a passanger from the ship due to a medical emergancy. I for one never was upset and cannot understand how anyone could be upset when there is a sick passenger or crew member. I was however concerned for the welfare of the passenger and wondered why my son-in-law was not shown the same courtesy that these sick passengers were given by the ship staff. My daughter was only 20 and took the Drs word. Not knowing where else to turn. I myself if it had been my husband would have demanded to see the Captain or ran up and down looking for a Dr other than the ship Dr who might have had some pull.
Originally posted by SanDee: In April 2000 my daughter and her new husband were on their Honeymoon on the SS Norway. My son-in-law became sick and taken to the infirmerary. He was kept there for 3 days and the Dr refused to have him airvacked off the ship. They had the private island and a sea day before returning to Miami. The Dr said they would have to stop the ship and that would make the passangers angry! He was taken to a Miami hospital where he underwent surgery immediately. Needless to say my son-in-law died shortly after. He was 24.
I have been on two cruises in the last 2 years that required removing a passanger from the ship due to a medical emergancy. I for one never was upset and cannot understand how anyone could be upset when there is a sick passenger or crew member. I was however concerned for the welfare of the passenger and wondered why my son-in-law was not shown the same courtesy that these sick passengers were given by the ship staff. My daughter was only 20 and took the Drs word. Not knowing where else to turn. I myself if it had been my husband would have demanded to see the Captain or ran up and down looking for a Dr other than the ship Dr who might have had some pull.
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. At the age of 20, I am certain your daughter did what she thought was right. I can't imagine being faced with that kind of decision at that age. I am sure she was thinking "If you can't trust the doctor, then who can you trust?"
Something like a ruptured appendix, that would be an easy fix at a hospital on land, can end up being terminal without treatment.
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In Nov we were on the Valor and we had just sailed away. We could still see land in the distance when the ship came to a stop. We were told that a passanger had to be removed from the ship do to an injury that apparently happened on the Lido deck. We watched the boat coming from Miami with its emergancy lights flashing. When it finally aprroached they removed the man and then ended up removing a female passanger that was having some problems.
Did we complain? Of course not. We watched and hoped that it was nothing serious and then thought how long they had planned for this vacation and did they expect this to happen?
On our first cruise to St. Croix and St. Thomas, many years ago, a couple on their honeymoon rented a car on St. Thomas and were involved in a pretty serious accident. (Don't rent a car in St. Thomas). They were placed on the boat and stabilized to see if they could make it back to the U.S. for better care. Things turned for the worse on our way home and we changed course to move closer to the bahamas. In the late evening a boat came out from port. They lowered the excursion platform out the side of the boat. The port cruiser pulled up alongside ( both boats still moving at a pretty good clip mind you) and they carried the strechers across to the other boat while the waves were rolling in over the excursion platform. An amazing site to behold. Amazing rescue workers. There were many prayers for that poor newly wed couple that night.
...or anywhere else while on a cruise in the Caribbean or to Bermuda. The roads are narrow and full of blind spots, you may be driving on the left, you are not familiar with the local driving style or traffic laws, etc. It is a stupid thing to do.
I hope all went well for that couple. They learned the above lesson the hard way.
