1. I support the captain in his decision to take back the ill passenger, but I don't really think it was good to take the other passenger out of the ship because you disagree. Many people just post he was unconsidered because he starts that petition and that he do that without considering the other passengers condition… How do you know he knew there was a passenger ill?? DO you know the IPPA?? Maybe the captain never told him there was an ill passenger…
2. I have travel on a few ships and like I said I support the captain every time I go in a cruise with my life, he can crash the ship, or let bad decisions but that’s no reason to distrust him. But they are people too you know some times they can take bad decisions.
I have never told you the real reason of why I don’t cruise with RCCL so here it goes, is not the food… ok the food is a great deal but is not all:
In the summer of 2006 I travel on the Adventure of the seas
During my cruise route we visited the port of Curacao, a great port and one of the main reasons for me to took that cruise , at 7:30 am I was looking that great view on the windjammer waiting to go out to my tour when I saw the ship leaving port,
I ask someone “what happen?” …no one knew
After 40 minutes I heard the news
“ladies and gentleman’s here is the captain speaking we have some troubles on Curacao there is a work strike (huelga) of the employees on the port and they won’t let the AOS disembark we are talking with their representatives and we will let you know as soon as we can of the situation, but there is a good possibility we will have to let go the Curacao port and continue our cruise without it”
I was angry and for a good reason but I did not start a petition I only told my wife as soon as we get back to Puerto Rico I will complain with the company if they “jump” Curacao, but we were lucky after almost two hours they let us “ park” the ship. I went to my tour, late, but what really annoys me was that the captain was not telling the truth.
The Real reason, as told by the tour guide from an independent company no relation with RCCL or the port people:
When we arrive to port there was a lot of wind, I have a video were I am telling my wife
“Those people are crazy they are gone get kill trying to tied the ship to port”
The little boats were crazy on that water if I were them I will not have risk my life for that.
Well when the captain of the AOS arrive to the island the people from port told him that the AOS was not in the needed position and that he have to take it out in order to let the people at port “park” it correctly and avoid to “injuries” to the ship because of the wind.
What happen?
He refuses to do it and since is their responsibility the people at port would not let him “park” the ship.
After that the stubborn captain decides to take her out to sea and after a few hours do what they told him to and blame them for the trouble.
So you see I lost two port hours because some stubborn captain decides to do the Incorrect decision even more to defied the authorities at port because he decide to, so like you see captain are people too and can make bad decisions so I can tell you this I will trust the captain with my eyes close…but maybe is good to let one of your eyes a “little open” just in case...
How do you know he knew there was a passenger ill?? DO you know the IPPA?? Maybe the captain never told him there was an ill passenger…
There was an announcement made about the reason for the change in itinerary. The passengers knew there was an ill crew member that needed to be evacuated from the ship.
The passenger removed from the ship took issue with the compensation Carnival offered, launched a petition drive, and then staged a protest with his petitioners at the guest relations desk. It was much more than simply disagreeing with the Captain's decision. It was an open challenge to it.
^^^^^ Ok now is clarified in that case the passenger was unconsidered and was wrong then PLEASE TELL ME IS NOT FROM PUERTO RICO!!! Sorry did not know thank you
Of course not! He was from Texas. While every state, territory, and commonwealth has it's share of loud mouths, my observations are that Texas has a higher percentage of them. <Well, now I've gone and done it!>
I can not believe casanovas post. The captain has everyones safety at stake, including the crew. I do not want a man and his sons trying to create a dangerous scene on any ship I am on. If I am on a ship and the captain decides it is unsafe for what ever reason, I have to agree with him. I may be disappointed but I am a grown woman, I will get over it. I think the captain did the right thing with this ill crew person, be careful what you say it will come back and bite you. Lets hope you dont get sick on a cruise ship. I think casanovas post was totally uncalled for.
I'm a Texan and am going to agree with Dave. We have our fair share of rebels. It kinda goes with the teritory, we wouldn't be a state if there weren't some folks from the start who chose to rebel. The lingering effect even this long after those momets in history remain. You'll still see bumper stickers here with "SECEDE" on them. That rebel tendancy can be a very good or very bad thing depending on what and who's authority you decide its time to challenge. Not a good idea to rebel onboard a ship!
Originally posted by macmom111: I can not believe casanovas post. The captain has everyones safety at stake, including the crew. I do not want a man and his sons trying to create a dangerous scene on any ship I am on. If I am on a ship and the captain decides it is unsafe for what ever reason, I have to agree with him. I may be disappointed but I am a grown woman, I will get over it. I think the captain did the right thing with this ill crew person, be careful what you say it will come back and bite you. Lets hope you dont get sick on a cruise ship. I think casanovas post was totally uncalled for.
why do you think that??? do you read all the post??
I mean I post this:
"I support the captain in his decision to take back the ill passenger, but I don't really think it was good to take the other passenger out of the ship because you disagree"
Which was clarify by Dave beers I was wrong.
I also post:
"I have travel on a few ships and like I said I support the captain every time I go in a cruise with my life, he can crash the ship, or let bad decisions but that’s no reason to distrust him."
So as you see on the situation given on the post I am with the captain he took the right desicion...
What I'm telling you is that in my case it was not the "wise" decision to dis-respect port autorities, and even on my situation I did not do the same as the passanger on the post So you see our world is a place of law and order I waited to the end of my cruise and then call RCCL and file a complain. Either way it was not an life situation in that case I understand life come first than any port even a cruise I am sorry if I gave the wrong impresion to you that's not what I was looking for...
"Lets hope you dont get sick on a cruise ship." ^^^^^^^^^ why this?????????? You know bad feelings can be harmful so I don't want to Jinx my next cruise with a bad vibe in the future if you have any questions about Puerto Rico or the caribbean please send me PM thanks and God bless
Aww, don't worry about it Caz. We value your opinions and your membership here. It is always good to have a different perspective on things. It keeps things honest.
For some reason, whenever I board the Holiday my first drink is a Foster's oil can that accompanies a corned beef sandwich and two slices of the great Carnival pizza. Tradition I guess.
Anyway, this combination of beer and food sets me up to handle any erstwhile mutineers and make them walk the plank.
OK Dave, now you have gone and done it. You are steriotyping all Texans. I am a Texan and Texas Proud! I would never have done what that guy did. Not all Texans are Jerks! That's like steriotyping races because one does something wrong that means the whole race is rotten. Because one blond does something dumb all blonds are dumb. I am blond too! Take it back Dave!
I have read several accounts of "what happened" on many boards by people who were there.
Most were in shock that this man was acting like such an idiot. Several agreed that they were not happy with the compensation, but also completely disagreed with the way this idiot conducted himself.
One woman was walking her special needs son to Camp Carnival, while this man was trying to whip the crowd into a frenzy at the Purser's desk.
She made the mistake of saying "geez, didn't anyone read the contract" to her friend and this man heard it, turned on her (and her son)cussing at her and terrified her son.
No, this was clearly not simply a matter of someone "wanting to know what was going on".
This was clearly a matter of someone who was an idiot.
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She made the mistake of saying "geez, didn't anyone read the contract" to her friend and this man heard it, turned on her (and her son)cussing at her and terrified her son.
I read some comments about that incident. If anything, I think the Captain showed a great deal of restraint in not giving more people the boot, and also for Carnival paying the air fare home for this moron and his party. I have to say that if it was me in that woman's place I may have done something I'd regret, and perhaps I may have been leaving the ship too - although I would have been walking and not in a stretcher .
Not to downplay the seriousness of the topic, but I had to laugh reading this thread, because I was about to post exactly what DrLivingston said...Jamaica is definitely not worth protesting over.
If you have a problem, contact customer service when you get back. Sheesh.
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what in the world happened to the folks who hate Jamaica? Did you veer off the beaten path?
No, at least I didn't. It's just that after being hassled 381 times (not that I counted them) over the past 18 years of going there it got old - and I don't want to do that anymore. To me, going to Jamaica is like going to Wal-Mart. You know what to expect, you endure it to get what you want, and then you want to leave as quickly as possible.
OK Dave, now you have gone and done it. You are steriotyping all Texans. I am a Texan and Texas Proud! I would never have done what that guy did. Not all Texans are Jerks! That's like steriotyping races because one does something wrong that means the whole race is rotten. Because one blond does something dumb all blonds are dumb. I am blond too! Take it back Dave! 
