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THE CANUCK HOCKEY SQUAD HERE!!!I'm booked with wife and 2 kids. The reviews don't look good but we're going ahead full steam. Bringing rum, tequila, and a partytude. Anyone else going???? I hear it's going to be quiet....which might be good cause I hear there's not enough room. Fellow partyers....are you IN or OUT?
 
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Would love to go, Dan, but unfortunately stuck her ein Norway. I love Canada and canadians. From my time with NCL I had one of my best times with them, never a boring minute!

In tribute to all canadians we know and to our many happy memories onboard we always try to do something special on Canada Day july 1st.

Have a great cruise.
 
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Thank you my friend....you are kind. After reading all the blogs and hearing about the booze policy thing....maybe the party won't get as big as I thought it would. Still looking forward though. Still havn't seen any roll calls for this date yet.
 
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Just pack your booze well in the suitcase. That should work.
 
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Originally posted by Svein:
Just pack your booze well in the suitcase. That should work.


So as a staunch defender of NCL - and in every way from what I can see - you are encouraging passengers to violate NCL rules regarding bringing personal alcohol aboard the ship?


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I'm saying NCL is a great cruise line. But I'm still a person who also likes a drink or two of my favourite cognac in my cabin. (Of course as a passenger, not crew)
 
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And it's quite natural for me to be NCL's friend and supporter without agreeing to everything they stand for.
 
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And it's quite natural for me to be NCL's friend and supporter without agreeing to everything they stand for.


I just wanted a clarification, considering your past NCL employment as a safety officer for them and all. It indeed gives us all some perspective.


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So you mean, as a former NCL emplyee I should be agreeing to every single rule they come up with in order to promote them as a great cruise line?

Perspective?? At least I'm honest.
 
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Dont agree, just dont voice your opinion. Did you say you are a "former" employee? If not, you sure dont promote the cruiseline very well. Rules are put in place for a reason, employee or not, they should be followed for your own, as well as everyone elses, safety.
 
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So you mean, as a former NCL emplyee I should be agreeing to every single rule they come up with in order to promote them as a great cruise line?

Perspective?? At least I'm honest.


You certainly seem to promote them at every opportunity as a great cruise line! And since their current rule is "no personal booze", yet you still promote them every chance you get, then yes, I feel you are not being honest.


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Yes of course - former. If I was still with NCL I would probably not even debate here. (I guess some people would be happy if I didn't Smile Smile )

I agree - rules are to be followed, and I certainly don't support people bringing with them everything what they will be drinking onboard. Its a difference there. I'm totally pro screening luggage, but I won't blame a guy for trying.

In Europe it's perfectly normal to bring a bottle of your own booze if you're going to a hotel or cruise (with a european cruise line).
 
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I agree - rules are to be followed, and I certainly don't support people bringing with them everything what they will be drinking onboard. Its a difference there. I'm totally pro screening luggage, but I won't blame a guy for trying.


What that clears things up Roll Eyes.

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In Europe it's perfectly normal to bring a bottle of your own booze if you're going to a hotel or cruise (with a european cruise line).


And we are not talking of Europe in this situation.


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Well, what can I say... I have one opinion and you have another. And you are entitled to have that.
 
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Svein,

I think the important thing here is to realize that to some of us, rules are rules. I was always taught that if you will violate small rules you will eventually violate big rules too. This is the "law" I lived by when I was in the U.S. Navy and it is why we had a zero tolerance for any violations. To me it is amazing that someone would say rules are to be followed, but that you don't blame a guy for trying to violate those rules. Please tell me you were not a licensed officer.


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So you can honestly tell me that you have never in your life violated small rules, like speeding, parking in the wrong spot, etc?

In that case you deserve my deep respect and perhaps a price.

I guess It wasn't the smartest thing of me to put my view in that way, but I think, with a little willingness, you understand what I mean. I'm talking about the "one bottle of scotch to enjoy in your cabin while dressing up for dinner". But if that one bottle is discovered, of course it can be confiscated. The passenger take the chance on his own risk.

And yes, I am a licenced deck officer,and if I still was with a shipping company I would of course comply to all my company's rules. However, I'm not that anymore, so today I can allow myself to see it from a passengers angle.
 
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I guess It wasn't the smartest thing of me to put my view in that way, but I think, with a little willingness, you understand what I mean. I'm talking about the "one bottle of scotch to ebjoy in your cabin while dressing up for dinner".


I don't agree with it nor do I endorse it, but I realize it is going to happen and there is nothing I can do to stop it. And thus my statement in the post you alluded to.


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Well well gentlemen...looks like I touched a nerve with the alcohol policy.

Let us remember that this is a POLICY not a LAW. As officers you are expected to comply and enforce laws as they pertain to any given jurisdiction.

Policies....weather you are in a position to enforce them or not are open to subjectiveness.

As citizens of the free and democratic world (USA and CANADA), we are expected to comply with laws. As consumers, we also have the democratic right to voice our opinion (about policies) openly without fear of reprisal from our employers past or present.

Obey the law....respect the policies...but remember your rights. Make sense?
 
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Well, I guess if I still was in that position I would probably obey the policies as well.

I hope you consider Europe and Norway as a part of the free and democratic world too? Smile
 
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Absolutely. And bless the alliances that help Europe stay free.


On the Policy thing again....It's perfectly fine to disagree with a policy yet still abide by it. I'v also gained credibility and trust from clients with whom I voice my honest opinions with, yet maintain a standard to which I am held accountable for. My employer appreciates my feedback....it helps them grow and serve the customer. Afterall---who needs a YES-MAN these days. Companies that listen to their employees usually end up with better results.
 
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