If it upsets you to see the pictures then don't go through so much trouble to view them.

"If it upsets you to see the pictures then don't go through so much trouble to view them."

If this comment was directed at me, it wasn't the sort of help I was looking for, but thanks for the advice.

I guess it means that only people who enjoy seeing the Norway broken up should be viewing the pictures. Interesting point of view.

It wasn't necessarily pointed at you, but at your comment about how tragic the pictures are. You are not the only one to go and look at the pictures that Peter so kindly posts and then come back here and post a comment as to how terrible it is to see her being dismantled. If seeing the pictures of the Norway being scrapped is so disturbing, why are those that are disturbed by them so intent on seeing the latest?

Morbid curiosity I guess. Maybe you could even say its human nature.

"Enjoy seeing the Norway broken up" no, I won't say that I enjoy it, she was a beautiful ship. So there's really no need for the jab at me. I've known and accepted all along that eventually the ship would be scrapped. I'm ok with it as I can appreciate the business side of this discussion as many others have made it clear that they cannot. The simple economics of using her as a cruise ship had doomed her long before the boiler "accident". Once no one showed interest in buying her at a price better than what the scrap yard was willing to pay, then her fate was sealed. But to me it's just a ship and now just a pile of scrap iron awaiting to be reused into something new and useful.

Not a "jab" at you at all. I was merely stating the apparent flip side of the logic.

Yes, it's true that many people considered the Norway more than a pile of metal, and always will. She was an irreplaceable piece of maritime history that is lost forever, although the argument can be made that she'll live on through razor blades, beer cans, and automobiles.

What we will probably never know is if any bona fide offers were ever actually made to repurpose her as a cruise ship, a floating hotel, or any other commercial venture, or if Star/NCL decided they would settle for nothing but scrapping to 1) Keep anyone else from realizing a profit from her, 2) Keep their former flagship from becoming their competition, 3) Destroy evidence of the boiler explosion to keep their shoddy maintenance practices from going public (tough luck on that count, as it turns out), or 3) Any combination of the above.

Unless someone ever gets their hands on internal documentation and publishes it, we can only speculate.

While those who loved the ship and view Mr. Knego's photos with great sadness as the last images they'll ever see of this great lady, I wonder why people who harbor no sentimental regard for her whatsoever and think it's time for us all to move on and forget her haven't moved on themselves.

As you said, it's probably just human nature.

Even though the latest pictures are shocking & sad I couldn't help to stop and smile when I see that last majestic winged funnel still standing proud...like a lone guardian angel watching over her until the end. She still is the legendary SS Norway.

Capt Matt-Well Said!!!

BillyBuzzy

Agree with Capt Matt. Also I 've been following this sad episode since the explosion....I miss this ship

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.... I wonder why people who harbor no sentimental regard for her whatsoever and think it's time for us all to move on and forget her haven't moved on themselves.

As you said, it's probably just human nature.

Well, I can't speak for anyone else that falls into this category, but as for me, I'd love to "move on". Unfortunately I have to come in here and read these posts. As a moderator I have to make sure that no one is posting a rant against the India judicial system, making slanderous claim about NCL Star, or questioning the lineage of breakers to protect the owners of this site against lawsuits. We have come close to closing this thread down a few times, but in the interests of our members that do care about the Norway we have left it open. As long as it is I will be reading the new posts.

I just had to question the practice of the death watch is all... but if it pleases you, you may carry on mourning until the Norway is nothing but a dimple in the sand on that beach.

Thanks, I think I'll do that (in plenty of good company). I guess I became hopelessly devoted to the ship for better and for worse and I won't turn my back until she's gone.

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I just had to question the practice of the death watch is all... but if it pleases you, you may carry on mourning until the Norway is nothing but a dimple in the sand on that beach.

Jim, I don't think that people who react to the photos with words like "tragic" are criticizing the photos' appearance here. Nor are they criticisms of Peter for posting them. They are entirely normal reactions by people who were fond of this ship.

I for one would like to thank you and the other moderators for the work you do here. It is needed, and very important.

That said, with all due respect I have to say that I find your comments regarding the ship's demise (and the emotions of those who miss her) unfeeling, and inappropriate for an official of a forum that attracts many shiplovers.

Forum staffers are also forum members, which means we have a right to an opinion too - even when others disagree with it. We can't sit here and evaluate who's feelings might be hurt because that is impossible to do. I can write "whatever" and it probably won't sit well with at least one person.

Not all of us are emotionally involved with the Norway or any other ship. That's just the way it is. Perhaps it is inappropriate to tell someone they aren't displaying the proper amount of reverence to something you might hold high on a pedestal?

Now - please return to the discussion about the SS Norway/France.

Amen to that.

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Perhaps it is inappropriate to tell someone they aren't displaying the proper amount of reverence to something you might hold high on a pedestal?

Dave, I'll drop it after this, but I realize that not everyone had feelings about FRANCE/NORWAY.

I wasn't looking for "reverence." Just a more respectful tone.

Poor France ; at least he still have his rear funnel, so we can still see what he use to be. They're going fast, he will have disappeared in the winter I guess.

Hello everybody
It,s so sad to see are Norway the way she is now.But I hope they will still sell models of her at the hobby stores.I hope that one day they will built another France or Norway.I want to know is there any place where they sell DVD,S on the history of the S.S.FRANCE/NORWAY please let me know Thank you: Gabriel

Moronez,

Go on eBay and do a search under 'SS Norway'....right now there are two DVD's listed. One is of the transformation of her from the France to the Norway. The other is a homemade video while she was in Bremerhaven in 2005. They both look pretty interesting. Good luck!

Matt

Oliver Wendell Holmes in his poem "Old Ironsides" says it for us all:

"Oh, better that her shattered hulk
Should sink beneath the wave;
Her thunders shook the mighty deep,
And there should be her grave;
Nail to the mast her holy flag,
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!"

Thank You Oliver!

BillyBuzzy

My sentiments exactly~

http://www.jd-pro.fr/le_france_galerie.php?lang=fr&img=...n_IMG_5789.jpg&page=

...Not nice...

... thank you though, for those picture.
It doesn't look like a ship anymore, just shreds of metal.