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Serious Cruiser |
After reading this board night and day for so long, regardless of our individual positions or feelings I suspect if we ever all got together we would have quite a time. A good one. The world needs more thoughtful people these days.
I ask you my friends to join me today in remembering my friends Michael and Sheila (and anyone you may have known) who were just doing their jobs that bright sunny NYC/DC/PA day five years ago this morning. thank you, dave north beach nj major celebrity fan, but i miss the norway |
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Experienced Cruiser |
Ahoy cabin1018, Thank you for putting things into perspective for us. Agree 100%.
A sad day, today is.  |
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Serious Cruiser |
Jeez, calm down.
Raoul, yellow card?? Sheesh. |
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Serious Cruiser |
It dosn't matter ban me I don't care! I said what I feel and Giggi insalted me and I was defending myself, if thats wrong sorry!!! I'm trying to save the ship, and the workers of India! If you did'nt look at my post on the main NCL board please do and tell me if I lied in anypart of it or asked for personal insults you can insult my views but NOT ME!!!!! I will take a poll here and now who want me to leave and who wants me to stay all anserew please here's what Giggi and Svien Said to me Giggi's post Posted September 11, 2006 12:23 AM get a life Mr. Womack...you are just too pathetic... you are comparing apples and oranges... i have read many posts of you... all of them are negative. don't you think you are a little bit over the edge here... ? ...get your army out of Iraq, where you shouldn't have went in the first place anyhow and you would have saved thousands of lifes as well... and not just american soldiers' lifes.... Sviens post which at least did not give personal insults NCL is a great company - both for passengers and employees! So Svein I am sorry I was just so mad that I went crazy when I saw Giggi's posts. |
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Cruise Commodore |
Hello everybody,
as I mentioned earlier, I haven't been able to access my computer that often in recent days due to health problems. David Womacks has been banned by a fellow administrator and the offensive posting has been removed. I'm sorry this was necessary, but while I do understand this is a very emotional matter for many of us (including myself), there can be no doubt that some basic rules must be observed when posting here. I'm not going to challenge my fellow colleague's decision. Please, everybody, do keep up the fight, but it has to be a clean fight (even if our "opponents" don't fight a clean fight themselves) and the worst thing we can do is to allow others to provoke us in a way which leads us to disqualifying ourselves. This must not happen. So please, do try to put your emotions into helping save the "Norway" or at least into making this the last tragedy of this kind! Best regards, Raoul Fiebig |
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Serious Cruiser |
I don't mean to be a nattering nabalm of negativism but I said that the ship was doomed from the day that she was beached due to the fact that the scrappers figured that if they went ahead and beached the Norway that the Indian government would just side with them and allow the scrapping to begin. Dubai saw the beaching as another expence and I believe just gave up on the Norway because she is quickly becoming a money pit as well as damaged by the breakers.Giggi you can go beach yourself at Alang and move to the head of breakers row B-otch yourself
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p.s. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A. on this mournful day 9-11
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Experienced Cruiser |
Hello all - I'm not going to mention in detail the nightmare I had last night about SS Norway but it was bad enough to make me wake up screaming.
 Of course, that's not making me give up on the fight, though!!Anyway - who exactly is physically watching the SS Norway in Alang while we await a court decision or better yet - the Dubai Project wins? I don't mean just the breakers - I mean someone higher up like Greenpeace, BAN, law enforcement, etc.? Do we know how much damage last week's king tide caused? |
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Cruiser |
Wake up...!!! ... oh sorry, did i hurt your feelings as well ? |
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Experienced Cruiser |
Cruisemama,
If the Norway was fully beached, as the breakers had wanted during the kingtides, it would have been in the news by now. It seems that the court laws are holding up quite well. Considering if the breakers were to move or dismantle the ship, they would be fine millions of US dollars. For now, the breakers can't do anything until a court decision. Also, I believe that Greenpeace and BAN are on the case. If we help them, we help to save the ship. Dan Lague |
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Serious Cruiser |
i don't think they (shipbreakers) will be just sitting there, looking at the Norway wihtout doing anything. it's like waving a sausage in front of a dog's nose...
... like i said before, I would not be surprised if they started torching away somewhere without the knowledge of anybody. remember money has a big buying power in India...so all you need to do is pay a rupees here and there and the people (and i assume that includes the SC) will stay quiet. I don't think we can count on greenpeace much. they have not done much so far so i doubt that all of a sudden they will step in. sorry, don't mean to be too negative, but just think that's the way it's going right now. Philipp |
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Experienced Cruiser |
Yes and don't forget Lanterne has his first container load of booty ready for shipping.
When are Dubai ever going to issue some kind of comprehensive statement. I am sure it is not because negotiations are sensitive, at a delicate stage or whatever. The point is too that if Lanterne and others are stripping the ship of all that was essentially France/Norway then the ship may as well be scrapped. |
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Experienced Cruiser |
I must say that I regretfully agree with that statement. As I posted on CaptainsVoyage site today - it's a bit schizophrenic to me to be saying "Save the Norway!! Save the Norway!!" on one hand, and then on the other hand be supportive/understanding of profiteers stripping the ship of all that made her "special" To me, it basically becomes a "pseudo-Normandie" situation... They had to strip off half of the superstructure to right her, and then were left with a scarred (albeit beautiful) hull, shell interior and partial superstructure... she was a ghost of her old self, and no one wanted her... wound up as scrap anyhow. I'd hate to see the "shell of the Norway" saved - to me, that's almost as bad as total scrapping in the first place. And from the way it sounds, numerous vultures are ripping apart at the Norway's innards as we speak. There's no way around it for me... it just disgusts and disillusions me.... sorry for "negativity"... but that's just my opinion and my "reality" right now. Marty |
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Experienced Cruiser |
... I mean, don't get me wrong... I'm still e-mailing and doing what I can... I will not give up!! ....but the situation does look grim to me.
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Cruiser |
What amazes me is how NCL SC is blamed for the plight of Indian workers. Every ship that goes to such a place is responsible for the health problems of the workers and there families.
What a load of BS. India has a government democraticly elected by the Indian people. The government are responsible for this yard's workers they allow it to operate, they set and enforce the laws of the country. If they don't care or respect the health and welfare of its own citizens what do you really expect from big business. We may as well blame the people who built the ship it would achieve as much. If this is the best this site this site can come up with to save the Norway well its as good as over. Once emotion enters the discussion, aim and direction leave, basic objectives are lost or forgotten and nothing is achieved, just allot of bluster and hot air. All that is left is the inveitable failure of the primary goal.
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Experienced Cruiser |
Marc21: I don't think most people directly blame NCL/Star for the plight of Indian workers. That is clearly a separate and horrible situation that all who deal with the ship-scrapping world have some responsibility. And ultimately, the Indian government and people must take responsibility and "step up" to the situation. What many of use "blame" NCL/Star for is the apparent deceitful handling of the movement of the Norway from Germany->Malaysia->India under the frequent guise of "repair" or under the cloud of "promissory holding companies", when they were violating several national and international laws regarding decontamination of the ship prior to scrapping. |
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Experienced Cruiser |
Great point SSUS_NJ !!! It's silly to say we blame the scumbags at NCL and Star for Indian worker's health problems. But as noted above, they HAVE been very sneaky and dishonest in the way they have handled all this. They could have settled on a "reasonable" sales price with an interested preservation effort in 2004 or 2005. But they chose to take this course of deceit and for some reason DESTROY a wonderful part of maritime history. |
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Cruiser |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SSUS_NJ:
I must say that I regretfully agree with that statement. As I posted on CaptainsVoyage site today - it's a bit schizophrenic to me to be saying "Save the Norway!! Save the Norway!!" on one hand, and then on the other hand be supportive/understanding of profiteers stripping the ship of all that made her "special" Totally agree with you, SSUS_NJ !  Note: Let's positive ! If this people take parts of "SS Norway" to sell them after, they will make the liner lighter, so less difficulties to push her afloat :d (just kidding) Never give up, guys ! |
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Experienced Cruiser |
Olidal, you are toooo funny. You brought a smile to my face with that one!!  |
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Cruiser |
Thanks SSUS_NJ  Have you seen the success of this Topic ? 2638 replies, 220 825 views, 132 pages ! I think that it's the only site where NCL corporation is so successful ! We are all united with only one aim : Save the SS Norway ! Always i think that if you (all the people in cruise-chat) weren't here, i will be disgusted by my country's people, who don't care. So, i can't make a lot of things, apart make you smile sometimes .Allez, this ship is not dead yet. Let's fight ! Olivier |
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