badboyride is vulgar and shouldn't be permitted to attack somebody just because, besides I thought you " were going over to Captain No Nads because you had had enough? I thank PlanetPhips for being the only one to respond to such a tirade. I am no a.k.a. as some paronoid people might believe just an avid ship lover who doesn't have his head so far up my a$$ that I don't see what is going to transpire in the near future to the Norway (i.e. badboyride)

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by badrideboy:
all this bullshit sucks im gonna go to captainsvoyage.com where people are interested in one thing ... the norway and not race or disrespect or fighting

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Just came across a piece that "confirms" asbestos is crippling Alang workers. This just might help in saving our Norway. Although, at the end of the story there is horrible mention that "the dismantling work has just begun."

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/12101.html

Iwenger,
I just read the link you posted regarding the Indian Technical Committee Report of the long term effects of abestos amoung Alang workers. However, what you might have noticed is the asumption that the author had made regarding the breakup of the Norway. I don't believe that he's aware that it was the Technical Committee that made the recommendation, due the pressure of the Shipbreakers lobby. The Supreme Court, as you now know, did not give permission to breakup the ship, much less beach her.

I am assuming that once the ship was beached, the author assumed that breakup had started, as it was stated by the breakers on 8/15, when they mentioned that the ship would be scrapped within a month. However, the Supreme Court put a stop to that pending on the review of the Technical Report and other documents.

They should be making a decision sometime this week. I certainly hope they don't make their legal system into a joke by saying YES to the scrappers demands!

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besides I thought you " were going over to Captain No Nads

hey you are being just as bad, grow up both of you!

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But the court said the dismantling of the Blue Lady, formerly the S.S. France, could go ahead.

International Herald Tribune

Thanks for the link, BreakingNews... Though I maintain a high level of uncertainty/pessimism about the ultimate fate of the Norway, I'm not certain that the quote about the court saying it was OK to go ahead with scrapping was truly "on target". I suspect it refers to the court-appointed "expert" panel opinion.

As yet, there's no indication from any other sources that the Supreme Court of India has made its final ruling. I suspect that when that happens, it will be a higher profile news piece in the Indian press (rather than buried in an article focused on asbestos toxicity).

Just my thought.... (not that I expect the SC to rule in Norways favor... or expect that they'll rule quickly... so as to allow "accidental drift" of the Norway onto the rocks with the current king tide)

Regarding the recent prior posts... Please, please, please, folks... let's just focus our attention on the Norway/France... posting opinions pro and con.

The emotion/tension level has continued to grow high. We must not allow this board to deteriorate into personal assaults!!

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Originally posted by SSUS_NJ:
Regarding the recent prior posts... Please, please, please, folks... let's just focus our attention on the Norway/France... posting opinions pro and con.

The emotion/tension level has continued to grow high. We must not allow this board to deteriorate into personal assaults!!

Hallelujah!

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Originally posted by PlanetPhips:
.... BOOOOOOOH BOOOOOOOOOH BOOOOOOOOOH .... you just definitely disqualified yourself... i wonder where Mr. Fiebig as administrator is now....

PlanetPhips,

apologies for not being able to edit that posting earlier, but I've caught a summer flu and had to spend the last two days in bed.

Willkommen zurueck...

erhalten Sie gut bald

Oh yeah 987654321 its badrideboy..get it right if your gonna address me!
...got it? [...]. Oh no badrideboy is vulger...you havent seen nothing yet..Ron Clarkhahahaha

Edit: Consider yourself cautioned. Your language is inappropriate and will not be accepted. Further violations of our forum rules will result in your removal from the forums. RF

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must we? really?

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Originally posted by SSUS_NJ:
Thanks for the link, BreakingNews... Though I maintain a high level of uncertainty/pessimism about the ultimate fate of the Norway, I'm not certain that the quote about the court saying it was OK to go ahead with scrapping was truly "on target". I suspect it refers to the court-appointed "expert" panel opinion.

As yet, there's no indication from any other sources that the Supreme Court of India has made its final ruling. I suspect that when that happens, it will be a higher profile news piece in the Indian press (rather than buried in an article focused on asbestos toxicity).

Just my thought.... (not that I expect the SC to rule in Norways favor... or expect that they'll rule quickly... so as to allow "accidental drift" of the Norway onto the rocks with the current king tide)

The French "reve de France" website reports that the supreme court gave the authorization for dismantling... but I dont find confirmation on Indian medias. Gandhi must be so sad... he had so much respect and consideration for his people, specially the poors, and now he sees the authorities allowing putting them at great health risk.
In France, the huge Alstom group was fined €10,000 compensation per workers (150) for having exposed them to asbestos.

Anyway... I think that Blue Riband-Gulf Desert JV... if they are still around... are not in a favorable bargaining position. But they said that they were "commited" saving the ship... let's see...

The Indian Supreme Court HAS not made a decision regarding the fate of the SS Norway, yet. The court's decision to break up the ship according to the 2 newspaper articles, was the Technical Committee's recomendation to the authorities, which was illegal. Therefore, there was a misinterpretation that the Technical Committee suggestion is the Courts decision.

And this occured before Dubai had the chance to argue its case before the courts.

Besides, if Dubai is committed to cleaning up the asbestos onboard the Norway in a certified manner that is recognized by the EU, why would the Supreme Court go against Dubai and favor the Scrappers, when clearly they had violated Indian and International Law by beaching the ship. This proves that the scrappers have NO Regards to the Supreme Court's laws what so ever.

Once again, if the Supreme Court decides to favor the scrappers in this case, then the Indian Legal System would be the laughing stock of the international community, since they would be breaking their OWN laws and international commitments that they swore to uphold!

Jan-Olav is claiming to have inside information which by Friday ( high tide day) we will all know. In otherwords no matter how illegal, the scrappers are going to do exactly what they want . No point in the law then, no punishment for Star, no respect for history etc.

Atlantic109,
From an inside source, I was told that if the Breakers decide to BEACH the Norway before a court decision, they would not only be charged with violating a court order, but the FINES that they will impose on the Scrappers will run in the millions of US Dollars.

So if they are willing to risk going out of business for one ship, they can certainly try.

I also checked out Jan-Olav message board. If this particular scrapper breaks the law by beaching the Norway, there is only one thing that would punish a ruthless scrapper: Fines in the millions of US Dollars.

Even if he manage to beach the Norway, it wouldn't make world go away by these developments. It would certainly FORCE them to adapt to EU/Western Standards, which would put them out of business.

Scrapping one ship is not going to revive Alang's economy. It'll take more than one ship to revive their economy. I only hope that the courts makes a decision before Friday.

If the scrappers had no intention of selling the ship to Dubai, then why are they still negotiating with them to begin with?

Hey Folks,

With this weeks optimism hat on when was the last time you heard two corporate parties in the final stages of bargaining giving any level of information out. We do it all the time we find out at the same time as press releases are sent...or not at all if we don't win the deal!!!

Let just keep those fingers crossed and hope we're lucky hell the odds are better than the lottery!!!

Cheers,

Mike

p.s As we have no info anyone know any jokes or got any fun stories to keep us entertained....

I'll try and stay positive then!
What I don't understand is Jan Olavs loyalty to the " other side". Why does he not disclose his source if they intend to ignore the law.